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		<title>By: mpg-o-editor</title>
		<link>http://www.mpgomatic.com/2007/11/12/ford-focus-gas-mileage/comment-page-2/#comment-2145</link>
		<dc:creator>mpg-o-editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris - We had a Grand Cherokee CRD for two weeks last winter ... it was wonderful to drive, with endless torque.  If Chrysler bolted a modern automatic transmission (six-speed, perhaps?) into the truck the MPG numbers would climb.  

The Commander looks to be headed for the door and production on the Durango is done, for now at least. All that having been said, if Chrysler is successful in their tie-up with Fiat, good things are ahead.

On the Ford front, we can&#039;t wait to get behind the wheel of the Fiesta ... although it&#039;s not likely to get a diesel engine here in the states until we get our act together and implement a national energy policy that puts diesel fuel prices back on a par with gasoline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris &#8211; We had a Grand Cherokee CRD for two weeks last winter &#8230; it was wonderful to drive, with endless torque.  If Chrysler bolted a modern automatic transmission (six-speed, perhaps?) into the truck the MPG numbers would climb.  </p>
<p>The Commander looks to be headed for the door and production on the Durango is done, for now at least. All that having been said, if Chrysler is successful in their tie-up with Fiat, good things are ahead.</p>
<p>On the Ford front, we can&#8217;t wait to get behind the wheel of the Fiesta &#8230; although it&#8217;s not likely to get a diesel engine here in the states until we get our act together and implement a national energy policy that puts diesel fuel prices back on a par with gasoline.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.mpgomatic.com/2007/11/12/ford-focus-gas-mileage/comment-page-2/#comment-2143</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, don&#039;t get me wrong. I think diesel engines are awesome. I&#039;d personally like to see them being employed more in large cars and SUVs to reach that 30mpg threshold. Chrysler has a wonderful opportunity on their hands with the 3.0CRD in the Gr. Cherokee. I actually tried joining their &quot;chrysler listens&quot; forum to voice my desire to see that engine in their Jeep Commander, and possibly even the Durango. I believe right now the best their non-hybrids net is around 19mpg. the 3.0CRD which is already OK for stateside use could see as much as 25-28mpg in the Commander and Durango, which would easily offset that price per gallon. It would only see a true increase in sales though if they didn&#039;t try stapling it onto an options package like the auto industry likes doing so much. just having a base-trim on these vehicles with a single tickbox for the engine could motivate many buyers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, don&#8217;t get me wrong. I think diesel engines are awesome. I&#8217;d personally like to see them being employed more in large cars and SUVs to reach that 30mpg threshold. Chrysler has a wonderful opportunity on their hands with the 3.0CRD in the Gr. Cherokee. I actually tried joining their &#8220;chrysler listens&#8221; forum to voice my desire to see that engine in their Jeep Commander, and possibly even the Durango. I believe right now the best their non-hybrids net is around 19mpg. the 3.0CRD which is already OK for stateside use could see as much as 25-28mpg in the Commander and Durango, which would easily offset that price per gallon. It would only see a true increase in sales though if they didn&#8217;t try stapling it onto an options package like the auto industry likes doing so much. just having a base-trim on these vehicles with a single tickbox for the engine could motivate many buyers!</p>
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		<title>By: mpg-o-editor</title>
		<link>http://www.mpgomatic.com/2007/11/12/ford-focus-gas-mileage/comment-page-2/#comment-2142</link>
		<dc:creator>mpg-o-editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris - many thanks for your thoughts. I&#039;ve noticed a good bit of fluctuation recently in the price differential between gasoline and diesel fuel. Could this have something to do with the exit of the oil men in Washington? :)

Diesels, featherweight or not, make very good sense here in the States. If we want to achieve a 35 MPG average sooner rather than later, clean diesel plays a huge part.  It&#039;s time the oil companies start working for US, in every sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris &#8211; many thanks for your thoughts. I&#8217;ve noticed a good bit of fluctuation recently in the price differential between gasoline and diesel fuel. Could this have something to do with the exit of the oil men in Washington? <img src='http://www.mpgomatic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Diesels, featherweight or not, make very good sense here in the States. If we want to achieve a 35 MPG average sooner rather than later, clean diesel plays a huge part.  It&#8217;s time the oil companies start working for US, in every sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.mpgomatic.com/2007/11/12/ford-focus-gas-mileage/comment-page-2/#comment-2141</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who thinks 0-62 aka 0-100kph for u brits in 9 SECONDS is fast? You guys are just blessing us with your classic dead-pan humor right? In the States getting to 60 in under 8 is desirable, and getting there in under 7 is usually considered &#039;quick&#039;. Bottom line, you&#039;re NOT fast otherwise. I&#039;ll subscribe to &#039;spirited&#039; at best.

Something most of you are missing is that while YOU THINK clean diesel is a reality that we&#039;re being kept away from, the fact is that the US has the most strict PARTICULATES emissions standards in the world. This is something the .eu simply doesn&#039;t regulate like we do which means that these &#039;clean&#039; diesels are dirty in other ways that need to be reconfigured, tested, and certified for statewide consumption. If that&#039;s not enough, consider that Diesel fuel in the states is typically $1/imperial gallon MORE expensive than regular fuel whereas most European nations it&#039;s close to being on par if not cheaper. Add this all up and for most a featherweight diesel in a econobox doesn&#039;t make sense for most American drivers.

I&#039;ve rented a US-spec 08 focus and i was duly impressed. I averaged 34mpg driving 70+ in michigan. when i backed off on the go-pedal i was sporting as high as 38mpg. combine that with Sync and light, direct steering, and it&#039;s a good choice for smaller car buyers. Word is that the eurofocus/mazda3 is heavier and more thirsty when spec&#039;d similarly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who thinks 0-62 aka 0-100kph for u brits in 9 SECONDS is fast? You guys are just blessing us with your classic dead-pan humor right? In the States getting to 60 in under 8 is desirable, and getting there in under 7 is usually considered &#8216;quick&#8217;. Bottom line, you&#8217;re NOT fast otherwise. I&#8217;ll subscribe to &#8217;spirited&#8217; at best.</p>
<p>Something most of you are missing is that while YOU THINK clean diesel is a reality that we&#8217;re being kept away from, the fact is that the US has the most strict PARTICULATES emissions standards in the world. This is something the .eu simply doesn&#8217;t regulate like we do which means that these &#8216;clean&#8217; diesels are dirty in other ways that need to be reconfigured, tested, and certified for statewide consumption. If that&#8217;s not enough, consider that Diesel fuel in the states is typically $1/imperial gallon MORE expensive than regular fuel whereas most European nations it&#8217;s close to being on par if not cheaper. Add this all up and for most a featherweight diesel in a econobox doesn&#8217;t make sense for most American drivers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve rented a US-spec 08 focus and i was duly impressed. I averaged 34mpg driving 70+ in michigan. when i backed off on the go-pedal i was sporting as high as 38mpg. combine that with Sync and light, direct steering, and it&#8217;s a good choice for smaller car buyers. Word is that the eurofocus/mazda3 is heavier and more thirsty when spec&#8217;d similarly.</p>
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		<title>By: Focus Lover</title>
		<link>http://www.mpgomatic.com/2007/11/12/ford-focus-gas-mileage/comment-page-2/#comment-1626</link>
		<dc:creator>Focus Lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 2008 FF Automatic is scoring 34+mpg on average.  I&#039;ve put 2,000 miles per month on it all summer and the hwy mileage keeps creeping up.  Great car, great price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 2008 FF Automatic is scoring 34+mpg on average.  I&#8217;ve put 2,000 miles per month on it all summer and the hwy mileage keeps creeping up.  Great car, great price.</p>
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		<title>By: norisy</title>
		<link>http://www.mpgomatic.com/2007/11/12/ford-focus-gas-mileage/comment-page-2/#comment-1271</link>
		<dc:creator>norisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 04:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i recently bought here in the philippines a 2.0 liter diesel focus. i&#039;m very proud of buying one, instead of buying a petrol powered car. i get 35mpg, although the car is small, the engine is powerful. i am one satisfied customer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i recently bought here in the philippines a 2.0 liter diesel focus. i&#8217;m very proud of buying one, instead of buying a petrol powered car. i get 35mpg, although the car is small, the engine is powerful. i am one satisfied customer.</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
		<link>http://www.mpgomatic.com/2007/11/12/ford-focus-gas-mileage/comment-page-1/#comment-924</link>
		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 20:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 1980 VW Diesel Rabbit I owned years ago got 48mpg city / 54 highway; but the poor construction took out the rings and it had &#039;diesel runaway&#039;...uncontrolled acceleration even if you turn the key off!  Maintenance, lack of parts, lack of qualified mechanics, and overall poor quality has been the reputation of VW in the US with little trade in value. The Ford Focus is a much more reliable alternative; even my 2001 model delivered 32mpg combined mileage with no repairs in over 150,000 miles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 1980 VW Diesel Rabbit I owned years ago got 48mpg city / 54 highway; but the poor construction took out the rings and it had &#8216;diesel runaway&#8217;&#8230;uncontrolled acceleration even if you turn the key off!  Maintenance, lack of parts, lack of qualified mechanics, and overall poor quality has been the reputation of VW in the US with little trade in value. The Ford Focus is a much more reliable alternative; even my 2001 model delivered 32mpg combined mileage with no repairs in over 150,000 miles.</p>
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		<title>By: Ford Focus Review</title>
		<link>http://www.mpgomatic.com/2007/11/12/ford-focus-gas-mileage/comment-page-1/#comment-916</link>
		<dc:creator>Ford Focus Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 00:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] EPA gas mileage estimates for the 2008 Ford Focus come in at 24 city / 33 miles per gallon (MPG) highway, when equipped with the automatic [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 30 MPG Cars</title>
		<link>http://www.mpgomatic.com/2007/11/12/ford-focus-gas-mileage/comment-page-1/#comment-281</link>
		<dc:creator>30 MPG Cars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 13:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kristan</title>
		<link>http://www.mpgomatic.com/2007/11/12/ford-focus-gas-mileage/comment-page-1/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for fun - some Norwegian prices, a numbers:

Petrol (95) - $8,4 pr US Gallon.
Diesel          - $7,7 pr US Gallon.

Approx 70% of the price is taxes. The price for transportation with a car is approx the same as 10 years ago, since new cars use less fuel. So for the end user an crude oil price of $40/barrel or $100 is hardly noticed. 

Cars with big engines are more expensive (all cars in Norway are expensive...) then cars with small engines. 
E.g: 
Audi A3 2.0 TDI, 170 hp =   $65,600
Audi AS 3,2 V6 250 hp   =  $126,000
Chrystler 3,2 Aut            =  $119.000
Toyota Prius                    =    $52,700
(2006 prices)

76,3% of all new cars have diesel engines. (July 2007)

The average car is 17,7 years old before it gets scraped.
The average scrap age for an Mercedes is 20,7 years vs 16 for a Chrysler. The average age of a car on the road is approx 10 years old. (2003 numbers). You will be given a $300 refund  when you scrap a car. My previous car was a &#039;88 VW Polo. I bought the new one half a year ago, a 1.8 liter 2000 Nissan for approx $20.000.

Driving a car with a small engine here is not the same as in the US, since there are very few traffic lights. In one city they actually choose to keep the last one for training purposes, so the student drivers could have something to practice on. You very seldom need to reduce the speed to under 30 MPH, while driving inside city and not in rush traffic.  There are close to no full stop signs, I think I can count the one I have seen while driving for 11 years on one hand. This makes driving a car with 50hp or 150hp almost the same. 

On the freeway you only need to accelerate once, and if you consider the gas prices this becomes an easy choice between a big or a small engine....But of course driving a small high power car on small mountain roads is something completely different, and why many people choose a big engine if they can afford it =)

Highways in the EU are of a much higher quality then the ones I drove on in the US. I remember thinking that driving a VW Golf on a California freeway would have killed the car... After the taxi trip from the airport I rented the biggest car the agency had...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for fun &#8211; some Norwegian prices, a numbers:</p>
<p>Petrol (95) &#8211; $8,4 pr US Gallon.<br />
Diesel          &#8211; $7,7 pr US Gallon.</p>
<p>Approx 70% of the price is taxes. The price for transportation with a car is approx the same as 10 years ago, since new cars use less fuel. So for the end user an crude oil price of $40/barrel or $100 is hardly noticed. </p>
<p>Cars with big engines are more expensive (all cars in Norway are expensive&#8230;) then cars with small engines.<br />
E.g:<br />
Audi A3 2.0 TDI, 170 hp =   $65,600<br />
Audi AS 3,2 V6 250 hp   =  $126,000<br />
Chrystler 3,2 Aut            =  $119.000<br />
Toyota Prius                    =    $52,700<br />
(2006 prices)</p>
<p>76,3% of all new cars have diesel engines. (July 2007)</p>
<p>The average car is 17,7 years old before it gets scraped.<br />
The average scrap age for an Mercedes is 20,7 years vs 16 for a Chrysler. The average age of a car on the road is approx 10 years old. (2003 numbers). You will be given a $300 refund  when you scrap a car. My previous car was a &#8216;88 VW Polo. I bought the new one half a year ago, a 1.8 liter 2000 Nissan for approx $20.000.</p>
<p>Driving a car with a small engine here is not the same as in the US, since there are very few traffic lights. In one city they actually choose to keep the last one for training purposes, so the student drivers could have something to practice on. You very seldom need to reduce the speed to under 30 MPH, while driving inside city and not in rush traffic.  There are close to no full stop signs, I think I can count the one I have seen while driving for 11 years on one hand. This makes driving a car with 50hp or 150hp almost the same. </p>
<p>On the freeway you only need to accelerate once, and if you consider the gas prices this becomes an easy choice between a big or a small engine&#8230;.But of course driving a small high power car on small mountain roads is something completely different, and why many people choose a big engine if they can afford it =)</p>
<p>Highways in the EU are of a much higher quality then the ones I drove on in the US. I remember thinking that driving a VW Golf on a California freeway would have killed the car&#8230; After the taxi trip from the airport I rented the biggest car the agency had&#8230;</p>
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